Cave ancestry sent to Bill, Edna and Norma

What I have found out about Edna Woodward Cave's ancestry. Dear Norma and Edna, It has seemed to Bill that Dad didn't know anything about family members in England beyond the immediate family he grew up in. This year on the weekend of the coronation, MyHeritage.com advertised that they were making a lot of records freely available during that weekend. So I signed up for a 14-day free trial with their site. There was also a mystery on my mother's side in my ancestry which I wanted to try to solve. In that fortnight I made a beginning on Cottam and Cave and on my maternal great-grandfather. However by the end of that time, I hadn't yet discovered who was the father of Edna Woodward Cave. So I wanted to continue but I did not want to pay for a subscription. I have been able to do so by taking advantage of the offer My Heritage gives when you cancel your free subscription before the date when they start to charge you. They offer you a further 14 days free. I have in the months since then taken out free subscriptions using all of my email addresses and Bill's and then accepting the extra offer on each one. I have in addition to these signed up for free trials with Ancestry.com using 3 of our email addresses. It has taken all of these to finally reach my goals. I will now start sharing with you what I have found. Of course we knew that the mother of Joseph George Cottam was Edna Woodward Cave born on born on 19 Jul 1886. Her mother was Mary Woodward who was born in September 1858 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire. Her father was Henry Cave who was born in September 1860 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire (or possibly Jan 6 1861 Holy Trinity, Gainsborough. However, it may be that he was christened at Holy Trinity Church on thar date.). He married Mary Woodward in October 1883 in Brentford, Middlesex. He earned his living as a bootmaker and boot repairer. Their first daughter Alice Cave was born in June 1885 in Hounslow, Middlesex. Mary was 28 years old when their daughter Edna Woodward Cave was born on 19 July 1886 in Hounslow, Middlesex. In June 1889, aged 31, she gave birth to their son George Cave in Hounslow, Middlesex. Then when Mary was 36 her third daughter Lily Cave was born in March 1894 at Tattersall, Twickenham, Middlesex. Mary was 41 when her husband Henry passed away in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38. They had been married for 15 years. The birth place of Edna Woodward Cave, Hounslow, Middlesex, England is located in these administrative areas: Civil parish: Isleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens Registration district: Brentford Until I had searched this out on Google I had found that various entries about members of the family in different family trees seemed to clash. Afterwards though, I understood why Henry's death was recorded in some trees as having been in Isleworth and in Brentford in others , for example. EVENTS IN THE LIFE of Edna Woodward Cottam née Cave 1886 Birth:July 19 1886 Hounslow, Middlesex, England 1889 Age 2 Birth of brother George Cave Jun 1889 • Hounslow, Middlesex. 1891 Age 4 5 Apr 1891 • at the time of the census the family was living in Bell Road, Isleworth, Middlesex, 1894 Age 7 Birth of sister Lily Cave Mar 1894 • Twickenham, Middlesex, England 1898 Age 12 Death of father Henry Cave Dec 1898 • Brentford, Middlesex, England 1901 Age 14 The census taken on 1 April 1901 records that she was living at 15 Front Street, Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire with her uncle Charles Cave, a bootmaker, his wife Elizabeth and their son George who was 10 years old at that time. That same census of 1 Apr 1901 shows her mother Mary Woodward Cave living at 38 Strawberry Hill Road, Twickenham, Middlesex, described as widowed cook to Cuthbert Burgoyne, wine merchant from Kew and his wife Beatrice. It also records that her son George was living there with her. There is what seems to be a conflicting entry in the same census. Lily her youngest daughter is listed as a visitor aged 7 together with brother George aged 12 in the home of Henry E Langstone and his wife Hannah in Twickenham, Middlesex. This may not be a conflict. George may have been in both homes for part of the night and the heads of the two households may not have followed the census rules correctly. 1906 Age 20 In December 1906 she was married to Robert Cottam in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. 1907 Age 20 Birth of daughter Edna Mary April 1907 • Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England 1908 Age 21 Birth of son Joseph George Cottam 30 March 1908 • Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England 1909 Age 22 Birth of daughter Dora Lillian 14 Apr 1909 • Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England 1909 Marriage of her mother Mary Cave (born Woodward) to Benjamin Bonner in Newark District 1910 Age 23 Birth of daughter Thurza May (known as May) Apr 1910 in Lincolnshire England 1911 Age 24 on Apr 2 1911 when a census was taken, they were living at 10 Salthouse Lane, Lincoln, Lincolnshire. Robert was working as a carter. That 2 April 1911 census shows her mother living in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, England as a farmer/cottager's wife with her second husband Benjamin Bonner.. 1911 Age 25 Birth of daughter Eva Florence 8 Dec 1911 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire 1913 Age 27 Birth of son Robert Henry 14 Aug 1913 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England 1916 Age 29 Birth of daughter Gladys Irene (known as Irene) 13 April 1916• Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England 1918 Age 31 Birth of daughter Ruby Alice 12 January 1918 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England 1919 Age 32 Birth of Violet Mabel (known as Vi) April 29 1919 1921 Birth of Lilian Woodward Thurman the daughter of her sister Lily Cave on 1 Mar 1921 in Coventry, Warwickshire 1924 Age 38 Birth of son Jeffrey Thomas Cave 8 Sep 1924 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England 10 children in 17 years 1954 Death of daughter Thurza May Dec 1954 • Reading, Berkshire, England 1955 Death of cousin George Cave in North Kesteven, Lincolnshire between July and September 1967 Death March 1967 in Lincoln District, Lincolnshire I will now give you a little of the stories of Edna's parents Henry and Mary. I am also including their parents and Henry's paternal grandparents. I have chosen to include some of the story of Henry's brother Charles at this point because Edna lived with him for at least 6 years and because he brought about the breakthrough in my journey of finding Edna's father Henry. In my notes at that time I wrote EUREKA!!!!!!! I have found him. I've included Charles's son George because he was part of Edna's life for those years also. I've tacked on Edna's three siblings at the end. When Henry Cave was born in September 1860 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, his father, Samuel, was 24 and his mother, Sarah, was 32. (Other possible birth details are Jan 6 1861 Holy Trinity, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England. Some family trees recorded this as his birth date. There was a Holy Trinity parish church in Gainsborough in the 1800's. In 1980 the building was converted to an Arts Centre. It is most likely that Henry was christened there on this date.) He married Mary Woodward in October 1883 in Brentford, Middlesex. They had four children during their marriage. He died in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38. When Mary Woodward was born in September 1857 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, her father, George, was 33, and her mother, Hannah, was 30. She married Henry Cave and they had three children together. She then married Benjamin Bonner in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. She had two brothers and three sisters. Henry Cave's parents were Samuel Cave and Sarah Wade. Samuel was born Sep 28 1836 Place:Whitton, Lincolnshire Owsten, Lincolnshire, England When Samuel Cave was born on 28 September 1836 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire, his father, John, was 23 and his mother, Martha, was 22. He married Sarah Wade on 11 February 1858 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire. They had seven children in 14 years. He died on 30 June 1914 in Newton On Trent, Lincolnshire, having lived a long life of 77 years. Their children were John Cave, Annie Elizabeth Cave, Henry Cave, Sarah Jane Cave, George Cave, Charles Cave and Samuel Cave When Charles Cave was born on 24 February 1867 in Newton On Trent, Lincolnshire, his father, Samuel, was 30 and his mother, Sarah, was 38. He married Elizabeth Brewster in June 1890 in Newark-on-trent, Nottinghamshire. They had one child (George) during their marriage. Charles died on 9 November 1940 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, at the age of 73. When Sarah Wade was born on 4 September 1828 in Whitton, Lincolnshire, her father, William Wade, was 42, and her mother, Elizabeth Slight, was 42. She married Samuel Cave on 11 February 1858 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire. They had seven children in 14 years. She died in December 1899 in Newton On Trent, Lincolnshire, at the age of 71. William Wade was born in 1786 in Lincolnshire. He married Elizabeth Slight on 23 September 1805 in Spalding, Lincolnshire. They had one child during their marriage. William died in October 1841 in Brigg, Lincolnshire, at the age of 55. Elizabeth Slight was born on 26 November 1785 in Boston, Lincolnshire. She married William Wade on 23 September 1805 in Spalding, Lincolnshire. They had one child during their marriage. Elizabeth died in October 1866 in Spalding, Lincolnshire, having lived a long life of 80 years. John Cave was born on 29 August 1813 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire. He married Martha Ingham on 17 December 1835 in his hometown. They had eight children in 18 years. He died on 9 May 1902 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, having lived a long life of 88 years. Martha Ingham was born in 1814 in Lincolnshire. She married John Cave on 17 December 1835 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire. They had eight children in 18 years. She died in September 1882 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, at the age of 68. When Alice Cave was born in June 1885 in Hounslow, Middlesex, her father, Henry, was 24, and her mother, Mary, was 27. She had one brother and two sisters. When Lily Cave was born in March 1894 in Twickenham, Middlesex, her father, Henry, was 33, and her mother, Mary, was 36. Lily Cave lived in Twickenham, Middlesex, in 1901. On census night she was visiting aged 7 together with brother George aged 12 in the home of Henry E Langstone and his wife Hannah At the time of the census in 1911 she was working as a servant for Robert and Amelia Watling innkeepers of the Brentford Inn in Brentford, Twickenham, Middlesex (aged 17). Lily was married in July 1915 in Newark, Nottinghamshire when she was 21 years old. She married Thomas H Thurman. They had one child during their marriage Lilian Woodward Thurman who was born on 1 Mar 1921 in Coventry, Warwickshire and died in the same town in December 1994. Lily died in December 1957 in Meriden, Warwickshire, at the age of 63. When George Cave was born in April 1889 in Hounslow, Middlesex, his father, Henry, was 28 and his mother, Mary, was 31. He lost his father when he was only 9 years old. He had three sisters. In 1901 at the time of the census he was living at 38 Strawberry Hill Road, Twickenham, Middlesex with his widowed mother who was working as cook to Cuthbert Burgoyne, a wine merchant. The 1911 census showed that George had joined the military in England. In 1924 he departed by ship from Coventry and on 30 November 1924 he arrived in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada. Edna's cousin George Cave was born on 29 March 1891. At that time his parents Charles and Elizabeth were living at 2 Church Walk, East Drayton, Nottinghamshire. In 1911 he was living with his parents in North Kesteven, Lincolnshire and was a cycle dealer. He married Evelyn D Millhouse in March 1920 in Newark, Nottinghamshire. In the census on September 29 1939 they were living in High Street, Brant Broughton, North Kesteven, Lincolnshire. At that time he was a bus driver. He died between July and September 1955 in North Kesteven, Lincolnshire, England at the age of 64. To try to understand why Edna and Woodward Cave was living with her father's younger brother Charles we need to look at her mother's story. Focus on Mary Woodward Cave When Mary Woodward was born in September 1858 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, her father, George Woodward, was 33, and her mother, Hannah, was 30. A census on 8 Apr 1861shows her at age 3 living in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England. 1861 Newcastle Street, Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England A census taken on 3 Apr 1871 shows her living at the age of 13 with her parents in Newcastle Street, Tuxford, Nottinghamshire. On 4 Apr 1881 at the age of 23, she was living at 273 Glossop Rd, Nether Hallam, Yorkshire. Mary was working as a servant (housemaid/domest servant) in the home of Dr William Jackson Cleaver and his wife Julia. Mary Woodward married Henry Cave in Brentford, Middlesex, in October 1883 when she was 26 years old. On 5 Apr 1891 she was living in Bell Road, Isleworth, Middlesex, with her husband and children Another record says Bell Road, Hounslow, Middlesex. Bootmaker's wife living with husband, son and 2 daughters . Details of the census report are: Head Henry Cave 30 Wife Mary Cave33 Daughter Alice Cave 5 Daughter Emma Cave 4 This is really Edna Woodward Cave Son George Cave 2 (Why is an Emma listed instead of Edna? The Emma is actually an Emma Cavey (1887–1953) who was born in London in April 1887. The Artificial Intelligence gave a wrong connection.) As I have told you earlier Mary was widowed at the age of 41 when Henry Cave died in December 1898 at the age of 38. We have also seen that she became the cook at the home of a wine merchant in Twickenham, Middlesex. We saw evidence that she had her second youngest child George living with her there in 1901 but we don't know where the youngest, Lily, was living. Lily was only 4 when her father died. By the age of 17 she was working as a servant for Robert and Amelia Watling innkeepers of the Brentford Inn in Brentford, Twickenham, Middlesex. Nor do we know what happened to Alice the eldest after her father's death when she was 13. In fact I could find only one more record of her life after the census on 5 April 1891 when at the age of 5 she was living with her parents and her younger siblings Edna and George in Bell Road, Hounslow, Isleworth, Middlesex. That record is from the census on 2 April 1911 which shows her living in Horsell, Surrey, England. By that time she was 25. Of course we have seen that Edna had been sent to live with her Uncle Charles and family before the census of April 1901. Mary then married Benjamin Bonner (1840–1924) in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. The 2 April 1911 census shows her living in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, England as a farmer/cottager's wife living with her husband. In 1921 she is shown as living with her husband in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, England as a retired farmer's wife. When Benjamin Bonner was born in July 1840 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, his father, John, was 31 and his mother, Charlotte, was 25. He married Mary Ann Boot, the daughter of Thomas Boot and Anne Gilbert in April 1863 and they had five children together. He then married Mary Woodward in April 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. He died on 26 December 1924 in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, at the age of 84. Mary Ann Boot(1832 - 1906) was born on 29 April 1832 in Balderton, Nottinghamshire. She married Benjamin Bonner in April 1863 in Newark, Northamptonshire. They had five children in 12 years. She died on 29 June 1906 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, at the age of 74. Three years after her death Ben married Mary Woodward (the widow of Henry Cave). Frank Bonner, a son of Benjamin Bonner and Mary Anne Boot, was born in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, on 29 July 1869. He married Sarah Rebecca Cottam (1868–1948) in October 1890 in Newark, Lincolnshire. He died on 7 Aug 1948 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. His wife Sarah was the daughter of Thomas Cottam and Mary Emma Almond (and older sister of Robert C Cottam). Benjamin died on 26 December 1924 in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, at the age of 84. Starting at Samuel Cave, I tried to go as far back as I could in the line leading to Henry Cave. 2nd GG Samuel Cave was born on 28 September 1836 in Heckdyke, Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire, England He married Sarah Wade on 11 February 1858 at Trinity Church, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire Residence 1861 HolyTrinity, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England 3rd GG John Cave born August 1813 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire Death 9 May 1902 in Walkeringham, Bassetlaw District, Nottinghamshire. Martha Ingham born in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire Years for her birth are given from 1813 to 1818. I settled on 1816 in Heritage (1814 in Ancestry) Marriage: Dec 17 1835 Owston, Lincolnshire, England Death September 1882 in Lincolnshire 4th GG John Cave born 18 Nov 1783 • Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire, Christening:Nov 8 1783?? Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England Death 22 Jun 1840 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire Burial:June 22 1840 Owston, Lincolnshire, Sarah Andrews Birth:1785 in Gunthorpe, Lincolnshire, Married in Nov 3 1807 5thGG Aaron Cave Birth:August 1743 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England Christening:August 7 1743 Walkeringham, Marriage: August 23 1773 at Gringley On The Hill, Nottinghamshire, England Death:March 21 1800 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England Ann Smith wife of Aaron Cave Birth September 1744 Death 11 September 1821 Christening: September 16 1744 Gringley on the Hill, Walkeringham,Nottinghamshire 6th GG George Cave Birth: May 1713 Walkeringham, Nottingham, England Christening: May 29 1713 Walkeringham, Nottingham, England Marriage to Mary Ingham Jan 3 1741 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire Death 5 November 1752 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire Mary Cave (born Ingham) Birth: 1 March 1716 Walkeringham, Nottingham, Christening:Mar 23 1716 Walkeringham, Nottingham Marriage: Jan 3 1741 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England Death Apr 1768 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire 7th GG Richard Cave Birth: 9 February 1678 • Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England Christening: February 9 1678 Walkeringham, Nottingham 4 June 1727 • Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England When Richard Cave was born on 9 February 1678, in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, his father, Robert Cave, was 34 and his mother, Margaret Martin, was 29. He married Mary Horner on 18 June 1704, in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England, United Kingdom. They were the parents of at least 1 son and 2 daughters Mary Horner was born in 1678 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire according to some records. Others say she was born in1686 in Nottingham, England Richard married a second wife Alice Barton on January 4 1721 in Everton, Nottingham. Richard died on 4 June 1727 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire. 8th GG Robert Cave 1645 - 1722 Robert was born about 1645 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England His first wife Margaret Martin was born about 1650 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire Their marriage took place on Apr 12 1670 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire. Margaret died on April 16 1700 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England Robert was married again to: Isabel Stanywell January 14 1704 at St. Mary Magdalene's parish church in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire. Isabel Stanywell was born in Sturton, Nottinghamshire, England Some records say Sturton le Steeple, Nottinghamshire because that is what the town is now called. (See notes below.) Robert died in 1722. Notes about Sturton The name "Sturton" means "The Homestead on the Street" The Homestead in question was almost certainly a major Roman settlement with direct links to Segelocum, the "Street" can only be the Roman Street on which it is built. The addition of "le-steeple" in 1823 probably refers to the twelve pinnacles on the Church tower that can be seen for miles around and was probably done to differentiate it from Sturton-by-Stow that is on the same road over the river in Lincolnshire. At this point I came to a dead end. I could not find any leads to Robert's parents.