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Sunday, 26 November 2023
Cave ancestry sent to Bill, Edna and Norma
What I have found out about Edna Woodward Cave's ancestry.
Dear Norma and Edna,
It has seemed to Bill that Dad didn't know anything about family members in England beyond the immediate family he grew up in.
This year on the weekend of the coronation, MyHeritage.com advertised that they were making a lot of records freely available during that weekend. So I signed up for a 14-day free trial with their site. There was also a mystery on my mother's side in my ancestry which I wanted to try to solve.
In that fortnight I made a beginning on Cottam and Cave and on my maternal great-grandfather. However by the end of that time, I hadn't yet discovered who was the father of Edna Woodward Cave. So I wanted to continue but I did not want to pay for a subscription.
I have been able to do so by taking advantage of the offer My Heritage gives when you cancel your free subscription before the date when they start to charge you. They offer you a further 14 days free.
I have in the months since then taken out free subscriptions using all of my email addresses and Bill's and then accepting the extra offer on each one. I have in addition to these signed up for free trials with Ancestry.com using 3 of our email addresses.
It has taken all of these to finally reach my goals.
I will now start sharing with you what I have found.
Of course we knew that the mother of Joseph George Cottam was Edna Woodward Cave born on born on 19 Jul 1886.
Her mother was Mary Woodward who was born in September 1858 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire. Her father was Henry Cave who was born in September 1860 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire (or possibly Jan 6 1861 Holy Trinity, Gainsborough. However, it may be that he was christened at Holy Trinity Church on thar date.).
He married Mary Woodward in October 1883 in Brentford, Middlesex. He earned his living as a bootmaker and boot repairer.
Their first daughter Alice Cave was born in June 1885 in Hounslow, Middlesex.
Mary was 28 years old when their daughter Edna Woodward Cave was born on 19 July 1886 in Hounslow, Middlesex.
In June 1889, aged 31, she gave birth to their son George Cave in Hounslow, Middlesex.
Then when Mary was 36 her third daughter Lily Cave
was born in March 1894 at Tattersall, Twickenham, Middlesex.
Mary was 41 when her husband Henry passed away in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38. They had been married for 15 years.
The birth place of Edna Woodward Cave, Hounslow, Middlesex, England is located in these administrative areas:
Civil parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical
parish: St Stephens
Registration district: Brentford
Until I had searched this out on Google I had found that various entries about members of the family in different family trees seemed to clash. Afterwards though, I understood why Henry's death was recorded in some trees as having been in Isleworth and in Brentford in others , for example.
EVENTS IN THE LIFE of Edna Woodward Cottam née Cave
1886 Birth:July 19 1886
Hounslow, Middlesex, England
1889 Age 2
Birth of brother George Cave
Jun 1889 • Hounslow, Middlesex.
1891 Age 4
5 Apr 1891 • at the time of the census the family was living in Bell Road, Isleworth, Middlesex,
1894 Age 7
Birth of sister Lily Cave
Mar 1894 • Twickenham, Middlesex, England
1898 Age 12
Death of father Henry Cave
Dec 1898 • Brentford, Middlesex, England
1901 Age 14
The census taken on 1 April 1901 records that she was living at 15 Front Street, Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire with her uncle Charles Cave, a bootmaker, his wife Elizabeth and their son George who was 10 years old at that time.
That same census of 1 Apr 1901 shows her mother Mary Woodward Cave living at 38 Strawberry Hill Road, Twickenham, Middlesex, described as widowed cook to Cuthbert Burgoyne, wine merchant from Kew and his wife Beatrice. It also records that her son George was living there with her.
There is what seems to be a conflicting entry in the same census. Lily her youngest daughter is listed as a visitor aged 7 together with brother George aged 12 in the home of Henry E Langstone and his wife Hannah in Twickenham, Middlesex. This may not be a conflict. George may have been in both homes for part of the night and the heads of the two households may not have followed the census rules correctly.
1906 Age 20
In December 1906 she was married to Robert Cottam in Lincoln, Lincolnshire.
1907 Age 20
Birth of daughter Edna Mary
April 1907 • Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
1908 Age 21
Birth of son Joseph George Cottam 30 March 1908 • Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
1909 Age 22
Birth of daughter Dora Lillian
14 Apr 1909 • Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
1909 Marriage of her mother Mary Cave (born Woodward) to Benjamin Bonner in Newark District
1910 Age 23
Birth of daughter Thurza May (known as May)
Apr 1910 in Lincolnshire England
1911 Age 24 on Apr 2 1911 when a census was taken, they were living at 10 Salthouse Lane, Lincoln, Lincolnshire.
Robert was working as a carter.
That 2 April 1911 census shows her mother living in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, England as a farmer/cottager's wife with her second husband Benjamin Bonner..
1911 Age 25
Birth of daughter Eva Florence
8 Dec 1911 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire
1913 Age 27
Birth of son Robert Henry
14 Aug 1913 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England
1916 Age 29
Birth of daughter Gladys Irene (known as Irene) 13 April 1916• Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England
1918 Age 31
Birth of daughter Ruby Alice
12 January 1918 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England
1919 Age 32
Birth of Violet Mabel (known as Vi) April 29 1919
1921 Birth of Lilian Woodward Thurman the daughter of her sister Lily Cave on 1 Mar 1921 in Coventry, Warwickshire
1924 Age 38
Birth of son Jeffrey Thomas Cave
8 Sep 1924 • Lincoln District, Lincolnshire, England
10 children in 17 years
1954 Death of daughter Thurza May
Dec 1954 • Reading, Berkshire, England
1955 Death of cousin George Cave in North Kesteven, Lincolnshire between July and September
1967 Death March 1967 in Lincoln District, Lincolnshire
I will now give you a little of the stories of Edna's parents Henry and Mary. I am also including their parents and Henry's paternal grandparents. I have chosen to include some of the story of Henry's brother Charles at this point because Edna lived with him for at least 6 years and because he brought about the breakthrough in my journey of finding Edna's father Henry. In my notes at that time I wrote EUREKA!!!!!!! I have found him.
I've included Charles's son George because he was part of Edna's life for those years also.
I've tacked on Edna's three siblings at the end.
When Henry Cave was born in September 1860 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, his father, Samuel, was 24 and his mother, Sarah, was 32. (Other possible birth details are Jan 6 1861 Holy Trinity, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England.
Some family trees recorded this as his birth date.
There was a Holy Trinity parish church in Gainsborough in the 1800's. In 1980 the building was converted to an Arts Centre. It is most likely that Henry was christened there on this date.)
He married Mary Woodward in October 1883 in Brentford, Middlesex. They had four children during their marriage. He died in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38.
When Mary Woodward was born in September 1857 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, her father, George, was 33, and her mother, Hannah, was 30. She married Henry Cave and they had three children together. She then married Benjamin Bonner in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. She had two brothers and three sisters.
Henry Cave's parents were Samuel Cave and Sarah Wade.
Samuel was born Sep 28 1836
Place:Whitton, Lincolnshire
Owsten, Lincolnshire, England
When Samuel Cave was born on 28 September 1836 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire, his father, John, was 23 and his mother, Martha, was 22. He married Sarah Wade on 11 February 1858 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire. They had seven children in 14 years. He died on 30 June 1914 in Newton On Trent, Lincolnshire, having lived a long life of 77 years.
Their children were John Cave, Annie Elizabeth Cave, Henry Cave, Sarah Jane Cave, George Cave, Charles Cave and Samuel Cave
When Charles Cave was born on 24 February 1867 in Newton On Trent, Lincolnshire, his father, Samuel, was 30 and his mother, Sarah, was 38. He married Elizabeth Brewster in June 1890 in Newark-on-trent, Nottinghamshire. They had one child (George) during their marriage. Charles died on 9 November 1940 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, at the age of 73.
When Sarah Wade was born on 4 September 1828 in Whitton, Lincolnshire, her father, William Wade, was 42, and her mother, Elizabeth Slight, was 42. She married Samuel Cave on 11 February 1858 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire. They had seven children in 14 years. She died in December 1899 in Newton On Trent, Lincolnshire, at the age of 71.
William Wade was born in 1786 in Lincolnshire. He married Elizabeth Slight on 23 September 1805 in Spalding, Lincolnshire. They had one child during their marriage. William died in October 1841 in Brigg, Lincolnshire, at the age of 55.
Elizabeth Slight was born on 26 November 1785 in Boston, Lincolnshire. She married William Wade on 23 September 1805 in Spalding, Lincolnshire. They had one child during their marriage. Elizabeth died in October 1866 in Spalding, Lincolnshire, having lived a long life of 80 years.
John Cave was born on 29 August 1813 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire. He married Martha Ingham on 17 December 1835 in his hometown. They had eight children in 18 years. He died on 9 May 1902 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, having lived a long life of 88 years.
Martha Ingham was born in 1814 in Lincolnshire. She married John Cave on 17 December 1835 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire. They had eight children in 18 years. She died in September 1882 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, at the age of 68.
When Alice Cave was born in June 1885 in Hounslow, Middlesex, her father, Henry, was 24, and her mother, Mary, was 27. She had one brother and two sisters.
When Lily Cave was born in March 1894 in Twickenham, Middlesex, her father, Henry, was 33, and her mother, Mary, was 36.
Lily Cave lived in Twickenham, Middlesex, in 1901. On census night she was visiting aged 7 together with brother George aged 12 in the home of Henry E Langstone and his wife Hannah
At the time of the census in 1911 she was working as a servant for Robert and Amelia Watling innkeepers of the Brentford Inn in Brentford, Twickenham, Middlesex (aged 17).
Lily was married in July 1915 in Newark, Nottinghamshire when she was 21 years old. She married Thomas H Thurman. They had one child during their marriage Lilian Woodward Thurman who was born on 1 Mar 1921 in Coventry, Warwickshire and died in the same town in December 1994.
Lily died in December 1957 in Meriden, Warwickshire, at the age of 63.
When George Cave was born in April 1889 in Hounslow, Middlesex, his father, Henry, was 28 and his mother, Mary, was 31. He lost his father when he was only 9 years old. He had three sisters.
In 1901 at the time of the census he was living at 38 Strawberry Hill Road, Twickenham, Middlesex with his widowed mother who was working as cook to Cuthbert Burgoyne, a wine merchant.
The 1911 census showed that George had joined the military in England.
In 1924 he departed by ship from Coventry and on
30 November 1924 he arrived in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada.
Edna's cousin George Cave was born on 29 March 1891. At that time his parents Charles and Elizabeth were living at 2 Church Walk, East Drayton, Nottinghamshire.
In 1911 he was living with his parents in North Kesteven, Lincolnshire and was a cycle dealer.
He married Evelyn D Millhouse in March 1920 in Newark, Nottinghamshire.
In the census on September 29 1939 they were living in High Street, Brant Broughton, North Kesteven, Lincolnshire. At that time he was a bus driver.
He died between July and September 1955 in North Kesteven, Lincolnshire, England
at the age of 64.
To try to understand why Edna and Woodward Cave was living with her father's younger brother Charles we need to look at her mother's story.
Focus on Mary Woodward Cave
When Mary Woodward was born in September 1858 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, her father, George Woodward, was 33, and her mother, Hannah, was 30.
A census on 8 Apr 1861shows her at age 3 living in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England.
1861 Newcastle Street, Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England
A census taken on 3 Apr 1871 shows her living at the age of 13 with her parents in Newcastle Street, Tuxford, Nottinghamshire.
On 4 Apr 1881 at the age of 23, she was living at 273 Glossop Rd, Nether Hallam, Yorkshire. Mary was working as a servant (housemaid/domest servant) in the home of Dr William Jackson Cleaver and his wife Julia.
Mary Woodward married Henry Cave in Brentford, Middlesex, in October 1883 when she was 26 years old.
On 5 Apr 1891 she was living in Bell Road, Isleworth, Middlesex, with her husband and children
Another record says Bell Road, Hounslow, Middlesex.
Bootmaker's wife living with husband, son and 2 daughters
.
Details of the census report are:
Head Henry Cave 30
Wife Mary Cave33
Daughter Alice Cave 5
Daughter Emma Cave 4
This is really Edna Woodward Cave
Son George Cave 2
(Why is an Emma listed instead of Edna?
The Emma is actually an Emma Cavey (1887–1953) who was born in London in April 1887. The Artificial Intelligence gave a wrong connection.)
As I have told you earlier Mary was widowed at the age of 41 when Henry Cave died in December 1898 at the age of 38.
We have also seen that she became the cook at the home of a wine merchant in Twickenham, Middlesex. We saw evidence that she had her second youngest child George living with her there in 1901 but we don't know where the youngest, Lily, was living. Lily was only 4 when her father died. By the age of 17 she was working as a servant for Robert and Amelia Watling innkeepers of the Brentford Inn in Brentford, Twickenham, Middlesex.
Nor do we know what happened to Alice the eldest after her father's death when she was 13.
In fact I could find only one more record of her life after the census on 5 April 1891 when at the age of 5 she was living with her parents and her younger siblings Edna and George in Bell Road, Hounslow, Isleworth, Middlesex. That record is from the census on 2 April 1911 which shows her living in Horsell, Surrey, England. By that time she was 25.
Of course we have seen that Edna had been sent to live with her Uncle Charles and family before the census of April 1901.
Mary then married Benjamin Bonner (1840–1924) in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire.
The 2 April 1911 census shows her living in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, England as a
farmer/cottager's wife living with her husband.
In 1921 she is shown as living with her husband in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, England as a retired farmer's wife.
When Benjamin Bonner was born in July 1840 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, his father, John, was 31 and his mother, Charlotte, was 25. He married Mary Ann Boot, the daughter of Thomas Boot and Anne Gilbert in April 1863 and they had five children together. He then married Mary Woodward in April 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. He died on 26 December 1924 in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, at the age of 84.
Mary Ann Boot(1832 - 1906) was born on 29 April 1832 in Balderton, Nottinghamshire. She married Benjamin Bonner in April 1863 in Newark, Northamptonshire. They had five children in 12 years. She died on 29 June 1906 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, at the age of 74. Three years after her death Ben married Mary Woodward (the widow of Henry Cave).
Frank Bonner, a son of Benjamin Bonner and Mary Anne Boot, was born in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, on 29 July 1869.
He married Sarah Rebecca Cottam (1868–1948) in October 1890 in Newark, Lincolnshire.
He died on 7 Aug 1948 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire.
His wife Sarah was the daughter of Thomas Cottam and Mary Emma Almond (and older sister of Robert C Cottam).
Benjamin died on 26 December 1924 in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, at the age of 84.
Starting at Samuel Cave, I tried to go as far back as I could in the line leading to Henry Cave.
2nd GG Samuel Cave was born on 28 September 1836 in Heckdyke, Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire, England
He married Sarah Wade on 11 February 1858 at Trinity Church, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Residence 1861 HolyTrinity, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England
3rd GG John Cave born August 1813 in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Death 9 May 1902 in Walkeringham, Bassetlaw District, Nottinghamshire.
Martha Ingham born in Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Years for her birth are given from 1813 to 1818. I settled on 1816 in Heritage (1814 in Ancestry)
Marriage: Dec 17 1835 Owston, Lincolnshire, England
Death September 1882 in Lincolnshire
4th GG John Cave born 18 Nov 1783 • Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire,
Christening:Nov 8 1783??
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
Death 22 Jun 1840 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
Burial:June 22 1840
Owston, Lincolnshire,
Sarah Andrews
Birth:1785 in Gunthorpe, Lincolnshire,
Married in Nov 3 1807
5thGG Aaron Cave
Birth:August 1743
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
Christening:August 7 1743
Walkeringham,
Marriage: August 23 1773 at Gringley On The Hill, Nottinghamshire, England
Death:March 21 1800
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Smith wife of Aaron Cave
Birth September 1744
Death 11 September 1821
Christening: September 16 1744 Gringley on the Hill,
Walkeringham,Nottinghamshire
6th GG George Cave
Birth: May 1713
Walkeringham, Nottingham, England
Christening: May 29 1713 Walkeringham, Nottingham, England
Marriage to Mary Ingham
Jan 3 1741
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
Death 5 November 1752 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
Mary Cave (born Ingham)
Birth: 1 March 1716
Walkeringham, Nottingham,
Christening:Mar 23 1716
Walkeringham, Nottingham
Marriage: Jan 3 1741
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
Death Apr 1768
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
7th GG Richard Cave
Birth: 9 February 1678 • Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
Christening: February 9 1678
Walkeringham, Nottingham
4 June 1727 • Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
When Richard Cave was born on 9 February 1678, in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, his father, Robert Cave, was 34 and his mother, Margaret Martin, was 29. He married Mary Horner on 18 June 1704, in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England, United Kingdom. They were the parents of at least 1 son and 2 daughters
Mary Horner was born in 1678 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire according to some records. Others say she was born in1686 in Nottingham, England
Richard married a second wife Alice Barton on January 4 1721 in Everton, Nottingham.
Richard died on 4 June 1727 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire.
8th GG Robert Cave
1645 - 1722
Robert was born about 1645 in
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
His first wife Margaret Martin
was born about 1650 in
Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
Their marriage took place on
Apr 12 1670 in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire.
Margaret died on April 16 1700
in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire, England
Robert was married again to: Isabel Stanywell January 14 1704 at St. Mary Magdalene's parish church in Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire.
Isabel Stanywell was born in Sturton, Nottinghamshire, England
Some records say Sturton le Steeple, Nottinghamshire because that is what the town is now called. (See notes below.)
Robert died in 1722.
Notes about Sturton
The name "Sturton" means "The Homestead on the Street" The Homestead in question was almost certainly a major Roman settlement with direct links to Segelocum, the "Street" can only be the Roman Street on which it is built.
The addition of "le-steeple" in 1823 probably refers to the twelve pinnacles on the Church tower that can be seen for miles around and was probably done to differentiate it from Sturton-by-Stow that is on the same road over the river in Lincolnshire.
At this point I came to a dead end. I could not find any leads to Robert's parents.
Sunday, 19 November 2023
Mary Woodward CAVE
To try to understand why she was living with her father's younger brother we need to look at her mother's story.
Record of Mary Woodward Cave
When Mary Woodward was born in September 1858 in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, her father, George Woodward, was 33, and her mother, Hannah, was 30.
A census on 8 Apr 1861shows her at age 3 living in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England.
1861 Newcastle Street, Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England
1891 Isleworth, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
A census taken on 3 Apr 1871 shows her living at the age of 13 with her parents in Tuxford, Nottinghamshire.
1871 Newcastle Street, Tuxford, Nottinghamshire
On 4 Apr 1881 at the age of 23, she was living in Nether Hallam, Yorkshire, England. Mary was working as a servant in the home of Dr William Jackson Cleaver and his wife Julia.
Mary Woodward married Henry Cave in Brentford, Middlesex, in October 1883 when she was 26 years old.
When Henry Cave was born in September 1860 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, his father, Samuel Cave, was 24 and his mother, Sarah, was 32. He married Mary Woodward in October 1883 in Brentford, Middlesex. He earned his living as a bootmaker and boot repairer. He died in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38.
Their first daughter Alice Cave(1885–) was born in June 1885 in Hounslow, Middlesex.
Mary was 28 years old when their daughter Edna Woodward Cave(1886–1967) was born on
19 Jul 1886 in Hounslow, Middlesex.
In June 1889, aged 31 she gave birth to son George Cave(1889–1955) in Hounslow, Middlesex.
On 5 Apr 1891 she was living in Bell Road, Isleworth, Middlesex, with her husband and children
Another record says Bell Road, Hounslow, Middlesex.
Bootmaker's wife living with husband, son and 2 daughters.
Details of census report
Head Henry Cave 30
Wife Mary Cave33
Daughter Alice Cave 5
Daughter Emma Cave 4 This is Edna Wooward Cave
Son George Cave 2
(Why is an Emma listed instead of Edna?
The Emma is actually an Emma Cavey (1887–1953) who was born in London in April 1887. The AI gave a wrong connection.)
When Mary was 36 her third
daughter Lily Cave(1894–1957)
was born in March 1894 at Tattersall, Twickenham, Middlesex.
Mary was 41 when her husband Henry passed away in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38. They had been married for 15 years.
The census of 1 Apr 1901 shows her living at 38 Strawberry Hill Road, Twickenham, Middlesex.
She is described as
widowed cook to Cuthbert Burgoyne, wine merchant from Kew and his wife Beatrice.
She then married Benjamin Bonner (1840–1924) in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire.
The 2 April 1911 census shows her living in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, England as a
farmer/cottager's wife living with her husband.
In 1921 she is shown as living with her husband in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, England as a retired farmer's wife.
When Benjamin Bonner was born in July 1840 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, his father, John, was 31 and his mother, Charlotte, was 25. He married Mary Ann Boot, the daughter of Thomas Boot and Anne Gilbert in April 1863 and they had five children together. He then married Mary Woodward in April 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. He died on 26 December 1924 in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, at the age of 84.
Mary Ann Boot(1832 - 1906) was born on 29 April 1832 in Balderton, Nottinghamshire. She married Benjamin Bonner in April 1863 in Newark, Northamptonshire. They had five children in 12 years. She died on 29 June 1906 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, at the age of 74. Three years after her death Ben married Mary Woodward (the widow of Henry Cave).
Frank Bonner, a son of Benjamin Bonner and Mary Anne Boot, was born in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, on 29 July 1869.
He married Sarah Rebecca Cottam (1868–1948) in October 1890 in Newark, Nottinghamshire.
He died on 7 Aug 1948 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire.
His wife Sarah was the daughter of Thomas Cottam and Mary Emma Almond (and older sister of Robert C Cottam).
Henry Cave
When Henry Cave was born in September 1860 in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, his father, Samuel, was 24 and his mother, Sarah, was 32. He married Mary Woodward in October 1883 in Brentford, Middlesex. They had six children during their marriage. He died in December 1898 in Brentford, Middlesex, at the age of 38.
. She then married Benjamin Bonner in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. She had two brothers and three sisters
When Benjamin Bonner was born in July 1840 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire, his father, John, was 31 and his mother, Charlottetown, was 25. He married Mary Ann Boot and they had five children together.
Mary Ann Boot was born on 29 April 1832 in Balderton, Nottinghamshire. She married Benjamin Bonner in April 1863 She died on 29 June 1906 in Stragglethorpe, Lincolnshire,at the age of 74.
Benjamin then married Mary Woodward in 1909 in Newark, Northamptonshire. He died on 26 December 1924 in Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire, at the age of 84.
Birth Place of Edna Woodward Cave
Hounslow, Middlesex, England
Civil parish Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish
St Stephens
Registration district Brentford
When Edna Woodward Cave was 14 years old the census taken on 1 Apr 1901 records that she was living with her Uncle Charles Cave, a bootmaker, Aunt Elizabeth and cousin George. at Ivy House, 15 Front Street, Brant Broughton, Lincolnshire.
At the age of 20 she was married in December 1906 in Lincoln District, Lincolnshire to Robert C Cottam (1881–1953)
Thursday, 26 October 2023
URCH Final history
John Urch was born in October 1843 in Kewstoke, Somerset, when his father, Edward, was 46 and his mother, Mary, was 45.
He married Hannah Milliner on 7 January 1864 in Paddington, Middlesex when he was 20 years old. Hannah Urch née Milliner was born on 22 May 1838 in Melksham, Wiltshire.
Their first child, a daughter, Minnie was born in December 1864 in Kensington, Middlesex.
They migrated to Australia in 1865 as assisted immigrants when John was 22. They sailed on the Trebolgan.
Departed: England - 1865
Arrived: Port Jackson, Sydney - 28 June 1865.
They apparently settled in Bathurst because all the rest of their eight children were born there.
Their children were:
daughter Minnie was born on in December 1864 in Kensington, Middlesex.
Minnie was married to Frederick Heath in 1913 at Rockdale. She was
his second wife.
Frederick was born on 29 February 1852 in Manchester
On Sep 18 1876 Frederick Heath was married in Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire to Elizabeth Wilson (born in 1851).
In the 1901 census he was living at 2 Union Terrace, London Rd, Crayford, Kent married to Eliza (probably Elizabeth)
.
In the Apr 2 1911 census he was living in Bexley, Kent married to Elizabeth.
He died on 13 December 1928 at Bathurst.
Minnie died on 7 July 1935 in Bathurst.
daughter Hannah Maria was born in 1866 in Bathurst, New South Wales.
Married John Young McIntyre (1864 - 1924)
Daughter Lavinia McIntyre
Died in 1944 in Rockdale a suburb of Sydney
daughter Caroline was born on 5 April 1868 at Mt Pleasant, Bathurst .
Married name Tate
Died on 6 Nov 1953 st Home of Peace, Marrickville
son Willie Edwin was born in 1870 in Bathurst, New South Wales.
Marriage to: Catherine Urch (born Fulton) in 1892 in Sydney.
Son Francis Norman born in 1893
Lived in Newtown before enlisting on Aug 24 1914 - for WW1.
Departure:Sep 26 1914 on the HMAT Pera A4
Listed as a gunner
Record of death
Rank Driver
1st Australian Field Artillery Brigade
Killed in action on July 21 1917 in Belgium
Buried in Reninghelst New Military Cemetery, Reninghelst, Flanders, Belgium
Marriage to: Emily Urch (born Agnew)(1871 - 1962) in 1899 in Sydney
Died on 1 August 1951
son Henry Francis (Frank) was born on 23 December 1872 in Bathurst, New South Wales.
Married to Rosa Reynolds in 1894 in New Jersey, U.S.A.
Rosa was born on Jan 18 1869
in Merthyr, Tydfil, Wales and died on Nov 4 1951 in Bankstown.
Their daughter Maude Marietta born in 1899 Liverpool, England, married James William Stewart on June 25 1927 and died on Nov 27 1973 in Yagoona.
Frank also had a son Ernest Reynolds Urch who was born March 19 1905 in Woollarah and died on Jan 2 1993 in Yagoona.
Frank died on 21 June 1939 in North Bankstown, NSW
daughter Mary Ellen was born on 21 September 1873 in Bathurst, New South Wales
Married Thomas Mealing in 1894 in Newtown.
Died on 1 January1952 in Sydney.
daughter Sarah Everas was born on 27 December 1875 in Bathurst, New South Wales.
Married Robert John Dunbar Brown in 1895 in Sydney
Died in1952
Daughter Ethel Everas Brown was born on 13 September 1897 in Balmain, New South Wales. Ethel married Edward Sydney Chambers on 6 September 1924 in Sydney. She died on July 5 1985 in Peakhurst.
Other children Doris, Robert, Gordon and Kenneth.
daughter Ethel Rosalind was born on 11 August 1876 in Bathurst, New South Wales.
Married Louis Augustus Eugene Herbert on 7 July 1902
Died on 10 August to 1947 in Rockdale.
John's first wife Hannah died on 28 February 1894 in Redfern, New South Wales at the age of 55.
After her death he married Adelina Cordelia Potter in Hurstville/Bexley, New South Wales, on 26 April 1895 when he was 51 years old and they had two children together. He died on 1 June 1927 in Rockdale at the age of 83, and was buried in Sydney, New South Wales.
Christening of son Arthur at Bexley Anglican church on 16 February 1902. Address is Webbers Rd, Kogarah. John is a platelayer.
PHOTO OF JOHN URCH
John_Urch_1843_1927.jpg
John Urch's father was Edward Urch (1797 - 1863) and his mother was Mary Urch (born Wallace or Wallice) (1797 - 1890). When John (Urch Deanshaw) was born in October 1843 in Kewstoke, Somerset, his father, Edward, was 46 and his mother, Mary, was 45.
Edward Urch was born on 9 April 1797 in Chedzoy, Somerset. He married Mary Wallice on 1 April 1824 in Worle, Somerset. They had eight children in 17 years. He died on 23 August 1863 in Axbridge, Somerset, at the age of 66, and was buried in Kewstoke, Somerset.
His occupation was that of carpenter.
When the census was taken in
1841, they were living in Mill Street, Bedminster, Somerset, England
At the next census in 1851 their address was Norton Weed House, Norton Beauchamp, Kewstoke, Somerset, England
Another record says he died in
August 1863 in Kewstoke, Somerset, England and was buried on August 23 1863 in
Kewstoke, Somerset, England
The parents of Edward Urch were Edward Urch who is called Charles Edward in some records and Sarah Talbert .
His father, Edward, was 36 and his mother, Sarah, was 38 when he was born.
Edward or Charles Edward Urch (1760–1820) was born on 29 July 1760 in Chilton Polden, Somerset, and died on16 Aug 1820 in East Rolstone, Banwell, Somerset, England aged 60yrs.
He was married to Sarah Talbert on 26 November 1781 in Chedzoy, Somerset.
Sarah was born on 3 September 1758 in Puxton, Somerset, England and died on 2 Apr 1852 in Banwell, North Somerset Unitary Authority, Somerset, England.
Edward Urch 1760 - 1803
Margaret COLLINGS was born in 1739 in Chilton upon Polden, Somerset. She married Edward Urch on 20 November 1759 in Moorlinch, Somerset. They had two children during their marriage. She died on 31 December 1811 in her hometown at the age of 72.
Samuel Urch 1690 - 1750
Samuel was born in 1690 in Wedmore, Somerset.
When he was born, his father, Richard, was 25 and his mother, Harriet, was 21. He married Hannah Urch née Nutticombe in 1717 in Somerset when he was 27 years old. They had eight children in 22 years. He died on 8 October 1750 in Mark, Somerset, at the age of 60, and was buried there.
Hannah "Johanna Urch" Urch (born Nutticombe)
1695 - 1769
She was born in 1695 in Mark, Somerset. She married Samuel Urch in 1717 in Somerset. They had eight children in 22 years. Edward was their fourth child. She died on 16 January 1769 in her hometown at the age of 74.
Richard Selway Urch
1665 - 1725
When Richard Selway Urch was born in 1665 in Wedmore, Somerset, his father, Thomas, was 33. He married Harriet Harris in 1688 in Mark, Somerset when he was 23 years old. His second son Samuel was born in 1690 in Wedmore, Somerset. They had four children in 10 years, 2 sons and 2 daughters. He died in 1725 in his hometown at the age of 60.
Harriet Urch (born Harris) 1669 - 1748
Thomas Urch (1632-
7th great-grandfather
When Thomas Urch was born in 1632 in Wedmore,Somerset,England, his father, Richard, was 31 and his mother, Margery, was 30. He had one son with Elizabeth in 1665. He died in his hometown.
Brothers Richard Urch
1620 - 1672
May 21 1620
May 30 1672
Wedmore,Somerset,England
and John Urch
born in 1627
Richard Urch
1601 - ?
Wedmore, Somerset,
Margery Popham
Mother of Richard born in 1620 and died in 1672,
John born in 1627 and Thomas
Birth:Aug 24 1602
Wedmore, Somerset, England
Marriage to: Richard Urch
Nov 16 1626
Wedmore, Somerset, England
Death:July 20 1684
Wedmore, Somerset
John Urch (1582 - 1627)
Wedmore, Somerset, England
Ellen Urch (born Nuberrie) Circa 1584)
Birth 1586 - Wedmore,
Death After 1622 - Wedmore, Somerset, England
Husband Joannes (John) Urch
Aug
Edward Urch
1537 - 1594
Marriage to: Joanne Urch (born Davies)
Jan 28 1562
Death:July 5 1594
Wedmore, Somerset,
Son: John Urch
1582 - 1627
Edvardi Urch
1537 - 1594)
Mudgley, Wedmore, Somerset, England
Death:July 5 1594
Wedmore, Somerset
Johannam (Joan) Urche (born Davis)
1541- 1575
Wedmore, Somerset
Death: Nov 10 1575 or 1576
Marriage:Jan 28 1562
Wedmore, Somerset
Children
Johannes 1563 - ?
Johannes Urch is actually an older brother of John 1582
but some trees mistakenly record him as his father.
Johannes Urch
1563 - ?
21 June 1563
Mudgley, Wedmore, Somerset, England
9 June 1November 1627
Wedmore, Somerset
Edwardus (Eduard)
Born 1515
Mudgley, Wedmore, Somerset, England
Death: Jan 28 1563
Wedmore, Somerset
Mary Ann Urch born Marsh
Birth:1520
Cornwall, England
Death:1575
Wedmore, Somerset
Possibly buried in Odcombe, South Somerset District, Somerset, England
Sunday, 15 October 2023
My story 2016
Sad to say, in late 2016 soon after our trip back to PNG, an incident occurred in which a man from our neighbourhood, whom I had been trying to help manage his money better and whom we were trying to lead to the Lord , flew into a violent rage fuelled by ICE, marijuana and alcohol. This caused me to go into depression and anxiety. This had happened several times before as a result of trauma but never as seriously as this time. Over a period of a year I sank deeper and deeper until I was spending almost all of the time in bed. I was frightened to drive the car and gave up all my ministries: teaching scripture, mentoring with Crossroads Prison Ministries and leading the ladies Bible study group. I even felt unable to write or answer emails.
Praise the Lord though that in March this year I believe the Lord to come back out of the deep valley and return gradually to the land of the living. The Covid restrictions were actually a big help to me because I could start to communicate with people via email, Facebook and by phone without the personal contact I had found so hard.
Joseph Almond Cottam
Brief Life History of Joseph Almond Cottam
When Joseph Almond Cottam was born in 1883, in Harby, Nottinghamshire, England, his father, Thomas Cottam, was 38 and his mother, Mary Almond, was 37.
His residence in 1891 was in
Saint Mary the Virgin, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
Immigration • 1913 aged 30
He registered for military service in 1917.
Military Draft Registration
from 1917 to 1918
Carbon, Pennsylvania, United States
Military Service •
1917 - 1919
United States
381930
Naturalization • 3 March 1926
He married Marjorie Lee Miller in 1928, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States. He lived in Langhorne, Bucks, Pennsylvania, United States in 1930 and Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States for about 10 years. . He died in 1967, at the age of 84, and was buried in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States.
James Brewster & the Mayflower
Domesday Book Entry for Sutton
• Hundred: Bassetlaw
•County: Nottinghamshire
•Total population: 6.7 households (quite small)
•Total tax assessed: 0.6 geld units (very small)
•Head of manor: Sutton by Retford I
•Value: Taxable value 1.8 geld units. •Value to lord in 1066 £8.
•Value to lord in 1086 £8
•Households: 14 villagers. 6 smallholders
•Ploughland: 6 ploughlands (land for). 2 lord’s plough teams. 6 men’s plough teams.
•Other resources: Meadow 7 acres. Woodland 0.5 leagues & 8 furlongs * 8.5 furlongs mixed measures.
•Lord in 1066: York, St Peter, archbishop of.
•Lord in 1086: York St Peter, archbishop of.
•Tenant-in-chief in 1086: York St Peter, archbishop of.
•Places mentioned in this entry: Lound; Scrooby; Sutton [-cum-Lound].
Brewster and the Pilgrims
When James I came to the throne, he adopted a moderate Protestant religious policy. Both Catholics and Puritans were forbidden to practice their religions. Many extreme Puritans left England for Holland where Puritanism was accepted.In 1607 Walter Raleigh had founded the English colony of Virginia in America and companies had begun trading between the colony and England.
The Pilgrims were English Calvinists who, unlike the Puritans did not try to transform the Church of England, but actually left the Church to form an independent sect. This group appeared at the end of Elizabeth I’s reign and in the early period of James I’s reign.
Since they were not in the king’s Church (i.e. the Church of England), the Pilgrims were effectively outlaws in the early 17th century. Their pastors were fined, put in the stocks and whipped. Some of them who published pamphlets criticizing the king and his Church had their ears sliced off, their noses split and their foreheads branded with the letters ‘SS’ (stirrer of sedition).
In 1607 a group of Pilgrims managed to escape to Holland which, at that time, was the only country with complete freedom of religion. Here they could worship as they pleased.
Thirty-five members, who had fled to Holland to avoid persecution, were recruited by an English stock company to go to Virginia to protect their business interests. The stock company financed the venture which, when it left England, included 102 men, women and children.
The Mayflower
The Pilgrim Fathers set sail from Plymouth on 16th September 1620 in the ‘Mayflower’ captained by Myles Standish and steered a course for Virginia. The ship was a double-decked, three-masted vessel.
On board the tiny vessel were 100 emigrants, less than half of whom were Pilgrims.
Richard Clyfton
Richard Clyfton had been the vicar of Marnham in 1586 and rector of Babworth since 1586. Summoned before the ecclesiastical courts in 1591 and 1593 for not wearing the surplice, for not announcing holy days, and for refusing to use the cross in baptism, he was cited for non-conformity and then deprived of his position on March 15, 1605, in the same court actions that deprived Robert Southworth. On March 6, 1607, Clyfton was summoned as the “pretended minister or curate of Bawtry,” but he did not respond and was excommunicated on April 24. He preached in early 1608 at Sutton cum Lound (James Brewster’s church), before emigrating to Amsterdam as the pastor of William Brewster’s congregation.
James Brewster
William Brewster’s brother James Brewster was vicar of Sutton cum Lound from 1594 to 1614 and of Gringley-on-the-Hill from 1604 to 1617. Although he was not deprived for non-conformity, James Brewster had a history of conflict with church authorities. He was prosecuted in 1595 for irregularities in acquiring the position of vicar at Sutton, succeeding his uncle Henry Brewster; and because his practice in administering communion did not follow the prescribed formula. He refused to bury a body in a shroud decorated with a cross, and he baptised infants without making the sign of the cross.
He was excommunicated briefly in 1597, “for various offences” that were apparently connected with irregular financial administration of the hospital of St. Mary Magdalene in Bawtry, of which James Brewster was the “Master.”
William Brewster appeared in court on James’ behalf at this time. In 1605, Edmund Thurland (himself presented for refusing to take communion) sued James Brewster for having called him “an atheiste, a knave and a whoremaster.” Brewster admitted to the charge and was assigned penance.
As vicar of Sutton cum Lound, James Brewster was the immediate superior of the curate at Scrooby, and he was responsible for choosing the curate. From 1603 to 1607, the Scrooby curate was a Robert Markham, about whom little is known.
Saturday, 14 October 2023
Early Urch
Possible links
Richard Selway Urch
Birth1665 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
Marriage1688 • Mark, Somerset, England I believe he is an ancestor
Harriet Harris
(1669–1748)
1725 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
Wife Harriet Harris (1669–1748)
Married 1688
Children
Richard (1689–1730)
Samuel (1690–1750) I came to Richard Selway following Samuel back
I explored Richardus and Ricardus and Edwadus/Edvardi/Edvardus but I don't know where I put the results.
Richardus Ursh[Richard Ursh][Richardus Urch]
Baptism Date29 Sep. 1685
Baptism PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Father Wuardi Ursh
Richardus Urch
[Richard Urch]
Event TypeBurial
Burial Date30 May 1672
Burial PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Richardus Urch
GenderMale
Marriage Date4 Nov. 1641
Marriage PlaceWedmore,Somerset,England
Spouse
Margeria Martin
Margeria Martin
Marriage Date4 Nov. 1641
Marriage PlaceWedmore,Somerset,England
Spouse
Richardus Urch
Margeria Marten Or Sachell
GenderFemale
Baptism Date22 Nov. 1618
Baptism PlaceWedmore,Somerset,England
Father
Johannis
Margarita Martin(Sachell)
GenderF (Female)
Birth Date1618
Birth PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Death Date1660
Death PlaceSom, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Spouse
Richard Urch(Ffrie)
Child
Edward Urch (Quaker)
Margeria Marten Or Sachell
GenderFemale
Baptism Date22 Nov. 1618
Baptism PlaceWedmore,Somerset,England
Father
Johannis
Richardus Jr. Urch OR Richardus Urch Juvanus
Death Dateabt 1697
Burial Date21 Apr. 1697
Burial PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Margeriam Popham
Marriage Date16 Nov. 1626
Marriage PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Spouse
Richardus Urch
Josephus Urch
GenderMale
Death Dateabt 1646
Burial Date18 Sep. 1646
Burial PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Father
Thoma Urch
Mother
Jana
Joseph Urch
[Josephus Urch]
Event TypeBaptism
Baptism Date16 Sep. 1646
Baptism PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Father
Thomas Urch
Mother
Jane Urch
Edwardi Urch
SpouseJoannæ Urch
Baptism of ChildAnna Urch
¶Edwardus Marten Urch
Birth
2 Feb 1635/36 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
1628
Birth of sister Elizabetha Urch(1628–1711)
1628 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Birth of sister Maria Urch(1631–)
1631 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Birth of sister Jane Urch(1633–1711)
1633 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Baptism
2 Feb 1636 • Wedmore,Somerset,England
Birth of sister Esther Urch(1638–1643)
21 Oct 1638 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
Birth of sister GRATIA (Grace) Urch or Vith(1642–1697)
30 Jan 1642 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
Birth of brother Johannes Urch(1642–1643)
14 Aug 1642 • Mark, Wedmore, Somersert, England
Death of brother Johannes Urch(1642–1643)
16 Feb 1643 • Mark, Wedmore, Somerset, England
Death of sister Esther Urch(1638–1643)
15 Aug 1643 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
Birth of sister Anna Urch(1645–)
1645 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Birth of sister Edith Marten Urch(1652–1669)
20 Aug 1652 • Burcle, Wedmore, Somerset, England
Birth of brother Samuell Marten Urch(1654–1740)
18 Mar 1654 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
1655 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Marriage
1 MAR 1659 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
ALICE HOUSE or HOWSE (Quaker) 🔶
(1657–1693)
Joana Phippin
2 Feb 1635/36 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
1628
Birth of sister Elizabetha Urch(1628–1711)
1628 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Birth of sister Maria (1631–)
1631 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Birth of sister Jane Urch(1633–1711)
1633 • Mudgley, Somerset, England
Baptism
2 Feb 1636 • Wedmore,Somerset, England'
(1657–1693)Marriage
15 May 1673 • Wedmore,Somerset,England
Edwardus Marten Urch
(1635–1693)
Edvardus Urch
Marriage
May 15 1673 - Wedmore, Somerset, England
Wife
Joana Phippin
Samuell Urch
GenderMale
Birth Date18 Mar. 1654
Birth PlaceWedmore, Somerset, England
Father
Richard Urch
Baptism Date18 Mar. 1655
Baptism PlaceWedmore,Somerset,England
Event TypeMarriage
Marriage Date19 Apr. 1684
Marriage PlaceRodney Stoke, Somerset, England
Spouse
Mary Hardwick
Spouse Sarah Hardwick
FatherRichard Urch
MotherMargaret Marten/ Martinc
ChildrenJohn
Birth18 Mar. 1655
Death26 Dec. 1740
Samuel Urch 1655 to 1740
Birth
About 18 Mar 1655
1672
17l
Death of father Richard
Aged 48
Birth of son John Urch(1703–1771)
About 25 Nov 1703
1729
73
Death of wife Sarah Hardwick(–1729)
30 Jan 1729
1740
85
Death
About 26 Dec 1740
John Urch
Birth
25 Nov. 1703
Baptism
28 Nov. 1703
Westbury, Somerset, England
Spouse Patience Pearse
FatherSamuell Urch
MotherSarah Hardwitch
ChildrenEdward
Birth25 Nov. 1703 England
Death
16 Jan 1771 • Westbury/Somerset/England
Death of father Samuell Urch(1655–1731)
1731 • Wedmore, Somerset, England
Death of brother Edward Urch(1702–1729)
10 Sep 1729
Marriage
30 May 1727 • Somerset/England
Patience Pearse
(1705–1785)
Birth of son Edward Urch(1737–1830)
bef 27 Mar 1737 • Westbury, Somerset, England
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